Georgie Pope and Eleonora Sutter

THE FAIREST Co-founders Georgie Pope (front) and Eleonora Sutter (back), Berlin, 2021. Photo: Lukas Staedler

Georgie Pope and Eleonora Sutter on the relevance of humor for art education, Berlin's pulse, and the second edition of their art fair festival ›The Fairest 02: Get Used To This.‹

What are you working on at the moment?
›The Fairest 02: Get Used To This‹,at Kühlhaus for Berlin Art Week, 2023! This will be our second edition annual art fair-festival, opening on 14 SEP, as well as our group exhibition (until 17 SEP). We are really excited for our programme this year. On Saturday of Berlin Art Week, we will debut a new format as a de/re-constructed symposium day called UNFAIR FATHER, together with MOTHER.LOADING. Our approach is to facilitate discussion that is free of inhibitions, that is honest, authentic and raw, in order to create unique memories when it comes to arts, culture, and learning. The day will also conclude with a performance by Tarren Johnson and Joel Cocks, and a DJ set by Cora. For our final day on 17 SEP, we are co-hosting Spine by DISTANZ, a full day surrounding publishing across all genres and disciplines.

What are you reading or listening to right now?
Eleonora Sutter (ES): ›May Text‹ from Sofia Delfino Leiby and Pauk-Mumije.
Georgie Pope (GP): Reading ›Moonwalking with Einstein‹ by Joshua Foer and listening to the album ›Archangels‹ by John Bence

What does good art education/outreach require?
GP: One role of artists is to come up with the great ideas that become artworks, and curators/educators/mediators should activate these artworks in order to deepen topics to the audience. Art mediation shouldn’t be full of complex references and academia to reach a general audience. The best mediation is accessible, offers some kind of interaction, with questions, multiple-way discussion, or encouragement to properly view/absorb artworks—like walking right into a room and around a sculpture. Of course, mediation can also depend on the group, so it’s also about getting a feeling, if the group is well informed about the art world or not, if children or teenagers are present etc, then things should be adjusted.
ES: To push people’s minds into a state, where the excitement to think is activated, without having the feeling of being properly ›guided‹ or being forced into any thought patterns. Good conversations, humour and the ability to read a room.

Do you have a favourite building?
ES: LAXUS house in Tokyo.
GP: Nature over buildings.

Is there someone you would like to meet?
GP: Kurt Cobain
ES: Courtney Love

Do you have a daily ritual?
ES: Coffee, reading, walking.
GP: I aim to do a guided meditation, but for sure on a daily basis I need matcha, tea and daydreaming.

What accessory or object could you not be without?
GP: All my sentimental things from home (bush and beach of Australia).
ES: If I need to pick one thing, it’s my grandmother’s wedding ring.

What does sustainability mean for you?
ES: Deprogramming.
GP: 1. Making love not war. 2. Taking into consideration now, how our actions and decisions will affect the future.

What do you think Berlin’s artistic and cultural landscape needs?
Berlin is definitely a collaborative rather than a competitive cultural space and this fosters very authentic creative production. We’d love for Berlin to be taken seriously as an international player, that is self-sustaining and able to flourish. It still seems like Berlin has to explain itself, in all its experimentation, DIY and alternative ways, but this makes for a very exciting and fresh cultural landscape and this is valuable!

What do you do when you’re done working?
Get excited for our opening!